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Game of Thrones Season 5 Episode 4 Sansa Stark and Littlefinger in the Crypts of Winterfell talk about Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark
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Would they ever do a movie/TV series about Robert's rebellion? I want to see Rhaegar.
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Sansa looks so beautiful and grown up here ohmygod.
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This scene is so important and relevant for two reasons.
One, the obvious thing is the Rhaegar and Lyanna talk. It was nice getting an explanation in the show about the Tourney at Harrenhal for those who don't read the books (which is pretty much 80-90% of people who watch the show, unfortunately). Even if this scene doesn't stick out for those people, it should be brought up again. Hopefully we'll actually see this tourney next season. Also, Littlefinger's face indicates he knows something more than the usual story of Rhaegar kidnapping and raping Lyanna. Now, I don't think Littlefinger literally knows anything for certain, but I do think he suspects the story may not actually be entirely true, and he may hold a mere belief that Jon isn't Ned Stark's bastard. Not only is it nothing like honorable Ned Stark to father a bastard, but it wasn't like kind-hearted Rhaegar to abduct women, moreorless a noble women. But who would dare question Robert during his reign? Victors write the history. Even Stannis seemed to suspect something. I just don't think people thought much of it, but those who did may have reached another conclusion, one reached by Littlefinger and Stannis.
Second, now I don't necessarily want this to happen next season, but it's been hinted that it might - this adds more meat to the storyline of Sansa and Jon conflict in the North in season 7. The actors and producers have been hinting at it. Could be a red herring. And it doesn't necessarily mean the conflict must resolve in one of them dying, they could come back together. But either way, it seems like there may be some conflict. Sansa wants the North. Baelish promised her the North if she can stay strong and get through this whole Bolton marriage, and she certainly has. You saw how she froze and lit up in this scene when he said that she could be the Wardeness of the North. And even in the latest season, Baelish has planted seeds of doubt. Now Jon holds the North, Jon, a bastard, her "half-brother". And if they find out his parentage, which has been moreorless confirmed, he's not only half-Stark but half-Targaryen! I think there may be some conflict, and she may even team up against Jon temporarily, but deep down she knows that it's foolish to trust Littlefinger, which is why I think that if there will be conflict between Jon and Sansa, it won't necessarily end in a way that means one of them must die. Now, the whole coming of the White Walkers on the other hand is an entirely different story, one we'll get to soon enough.
This is a pretty well done scene. If only it were a bit more memorable for casual audiences. It should be brought up a lot in those "Previously on Game of Thrones" bits before each episode as it was in the season 6 finale. -
Probably the same conversation had happened between lyanna and middle finger. Baelish knew it all the while.. All Hail Peytr of the house Baelish King of the andals and the first men lord of seven kingdoms and manipulator of the realm
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It is so obvious that Littlefinger knew the truth all along that Jon was the son of the prince and Lyanna. Oh he is going to be so much trouble for Jon now that he is KOTN
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That place always gives me the creeps.
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how baelish could have white hair? he is supposed to be like 28 years old...
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Could Baelish be a Rayne of Castamere? all thru this series they keep mentioning how he pops up as a kid with nothing to his name and no family. All through the series. Every season. Why do they keep hammering this unless its important. Varys constantly speak of Baelish's ambition and Raynes suppoedly were as ambitious and almost as powerful as Tywin. I never noticed before rewatching this scene that Baelish told Sansa..." I know how hard it is to live with people you despise, believe me." Who did he HAVE to live with that he felt that much hate for? Didnt he love Cat? And he lived in Kingslanding by choice, right? The only theme this tv series hammers as much as the white walker threat and Jon's parentage is the constant story and song of the Raynes of Castamere. Could this be why Baelish is so damn important?
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I don't think that Petyr Baelish know nothing about Jon Snow as Lyanna Stark's son. He might have the slightest idea about it.
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So who think Baelish knew since day one about R+L=J or did he figure it out himself?
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4:32- oh how true... LF is speaking his own future.
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How many millions had to die because aemon refused the throne?
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Too bad none of that happened... :/
(Jeyne Pool aka (fake) Arya is who (the late) Lord Roose (Ramsay in the show) Bolton held as a Stark wife (captive)) -
Robert wasn't actually there. smh
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Is the feather Sansa found on the ground the one Robert placed on there the very first episode?
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If sansa took over winterfell as the wardeness of the north wouldn't that put an end to the starks ruling winterfell? I assume she'd eventually get married, change her last name, and her kids would be born with their dads last name. Thus ending the thousands of years of starks ruling winterfell.
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''The North will be yours''
Didn't really work out now, did it? -
That feather she picks up at firt minute of the video is the same one which Robert put in the statues hand when he visited the crypt...
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2:46
Sansa: Where will you go?
Petyr: King's landing
Sansa: King's landing?
Petyr: I'm going to tell Cersei you're here and I'll gladly kill you to be warden of the north
Sansa: Sounds like a big deal
Petyr: It is, but no one remembers this plotline -
Anyone notice how when Petyr says "You can imagine how it was for me, a boy from no where, with nothing to his name, watching these legendary men tilting at the lists" and, Sansa looks at him smiles, then looks at his lips, lowers her eyes basically checks him out and then looks back at Lyanna's statue. Sansa, I saw what you did there. ಠ_ಠ You can't hide from me. Sansa certainly appreciates how Littlefinger was able to become the man he is today despite coming from nothing, and how now he can be considered in the same rank as those legendary men which he previously couldn't hold a candle to. Mmmhmm. He's an impressive man, that's for sure.
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